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Anyone able to get Nest camera working?

Jeff Terrace 2 years ago in Media Tiles / Video Camera Feeds • updated by Utopia 3 months ago 91

I have the nest-manager device types installed for my cameras from:

https://github.com/tonesto7/nest-manager


This lets me see an image of my cameras in the SmartThings app, but when I look in ActionTiles, it shows only two capabilities: Switch and Image Capture. I tried importing Image Capture but the tile doesn't seem to do anything.


I've also tried using the image URL approach, but this only works for a short time until my browser logs out of Nest and the URL no longer works.


The Nest thermostat integration works really well though!


Anyone have any success with the cameras?

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Answer

The integration with Nest Cam was just deployed. Please give it a try.


Alex

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The "nexusapi...." link was a backdoor approach that a lot of us with Nest cameras have been using for the last year. 


ActionTiles just released (Alex's post above) a 3rd option when creating Media. All you have to do is paste in your Public ID from your Nest camera. Super simple. Enjoy.


Discuss

Good community question, Jeff; thank-you.


While it's not much at the moment, there are some sources in this KB article to research too: http://support.actiontiles.com/topics/121-how-do-i-use-media-tiles-to-view-my-video-cameras/

Yeah, thanks, I took a look at those links. The second approach I tried (where I get logged out) is from here:

http://www.smarttiles.click/help/#Dropcam_Nest_Cam_Stop_Motion_Video_Stream


Unfortunately, that method isn't really viable because it logs you out and the image stops working. I was hoping the Nest Manager device integration might work, but it doesn't. The capabilities it provides are called "Video Camera" and "Image Capture":

https://github.com/tonesto7/nest-manager/blob/master/devicetypes/tonesto7/nest-camera.src/nest-camera.groovy


The latter shows up in ActionTiles, but it's blank:



Clicking them pops up this:



But that doesn't seem to... do anything?

SmartThings captures the image and it may be visible inside the SmartThings App.


SmartThings currently does not offer a standard method for 3rd party apps like ActionTiles to retrieve the Captured Image Snapshot.


We've experimented with some, but it requires all of the Camera Device Type developers to agree to provide the image in the same data format (base64 encoded, probably); and that is even only remotely possible if SmartThings sponsors the initiative to get such a standard new Attribute implemented.

I tried the direct nest integrations outlined in the links, but no success on my end.

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Yeah, I think Nest Manager is using a hacky undocumented way of getting the camera image into the app.


Any chance AT will support Nest natively? The API is pretty simple to integrate with.

When in comes to enhancing video compatibility, we're looking for the biggest value for each effort.


Use of vendor specific APIs may be the most effective and efficient ways in many cases.

Unable to get Nest cameras to work in Actiontiles under "My media" as well perhaps remove reference for them in the help.

They work if I set them as "my shortcuts" in Actiontiles which puts a link in Actiontiles panel which will open another tab for the live camera when you select it.

I just noticed if you have them set up as my media and right click on the panel page camera icon then select open in new tab. The new tab shows the live feed correctly as well.


Which cameras work the best with Actiontiles as "my media"? dropcams?

Regret buying Nest but now I have them. Hardware wise the quality is good but s/w very limited such a closed system if I wanted that I would have bought Apple.

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Does the open in the new tab just go to the Nest camera page? Because Nest logs you out after a period of inactivity. So expect to have to log back in periodically.


Also, Nest is proprietary and closed source, but I wouldn't call it a closed system. They have an API: https://developers.nest.com/documentation/api-reference/overview#cameras

Does not appear to log me out i have been using the same shortcut link with Nest Manager for a few weeks now and with Actiontiles for a few days.

What did you use for the shortcut? Can you post some instructions? Thanks!

I may not be getting logged out because I paid for the 10 day Nest aware subscription.


from the nest.com

- Login and select the camera I want then

- select the top right gear icon for settings an

- select camera sharing then

- share this link and copy the link


in Actiontiles

- settings

- select my shortcuts click + and add a shortcut

- name the shortcut

- paste the shortcut from Nest into absolute URL

- select add

- under my panels select the pencil for editting

- next to your panel select + to add URL shortcut

- check the shortcut and select save



Ah, no that works because you're using the private sharing link, which doesn't require a login. I was using the link to the Nest camera page that requires login. Thanks!

I'd really love to see Nest Camera integration. That's a HUGE reason why I purchased this. I love ActionTiles, but adding this feature would be amazing, especially since Nest Camera offers a shareable/embedable link. Any idea's of when or if this will be implimented?

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It's tough for us to lean towards a specific vendor rather than SmartThings or open video standards, but Nest Cam is certainly popular enough that it would not be a misdirected effort.


You mention specific embeddable links... Can you please give me a reference?

It would be much appreciated :) Thanks for all the hard work, you guys are doing great!

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I'm sorry I didnt see your other response. Nest offer's an embed code, just like youtube, looks almost identical.. Like this: <iframe type="text/html" frameborder="0" width="480" height="394" src="//video.nest.com/embedded/live/xxxxxxxxxxxxxx?autoplay=1" allowfullscreen></iframe> I put xxx's where my unique code is.

Is there a way for me to add this embed code to get it to work?

Not right now. ActionTiles does not support iframes.

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Is there any plan to support iframes? Seems like a quick win to integrate Nest Cam until a proper solution is found.

Only if there are Votes. 😉


Just sayin': There are Feature Requests with much higher popularity that we need to focus our resources on. Look at the Topic Vote counts...


A couple notes:

- The instructions posted by NoWon above only work if you enable public URL sharing, but not the password-protected sharing. I'm not a big fan of enabling public sharing.

- The URL shortcut approach doesn't show a live picture of the camera on the dashboard. Instead, it's just a link which opens up the camera in a browser, which isn't all that useful for a dashboard.


I purchased a license to support you guys. My top request is Nest integration: it would really go a long way to completing my dashboard. Thanks!

I know I am late to the party here, but it looks like the guys over at NST Manager have found a way to enable Rest Streaming...


First, does that help here?  Second, what is that? (heh).  I have no idea about video streaming protocols... 

Welcome! 


  1. Do you have a link to the details / discussion, please? 
  2. I think you probably mean "RTSP streaming"? ("REST" is a protocol for small data requests and sends, no a video streaming protocol).
  3. We are looking into RTSP in general; please follow and Vote: http://support.actiontiles.com/topics/1341-rstp-protocol-for-video-feeds/

Looks like I was off base and you provided the needed context to figure that out.  It is REST but they were talking about getting the motion alerts from the camera and not the actual video stream.   Foiled again!


I have used up all of my votes (some time ago).  Perhaps I can revote them?  How do I get new ones?

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You can get Votes back in either of two ways:

  1. Go to an open Topic you have Voted for and select Undo (next to the 👍 button).
  2. Wait for the Topic(s) (bugs/features) that you have Voted for to be Completed or Closed. Their Votes are automatically returned to your budget.

I've trying to get my Arlo and Nest Cam to work with ActionTiles but can't seem to figure it out. Are there any video or visual guides on the web where I can watch it? I'm really tired of doing the same over and over and not seeing results.

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http://www.leadsrating.com/security-cameras/security-camera-comparisons/arlo-pro-vs-nest-outdoor/

Hi Leads,


Arlo is not compatible to the best of my knowledge. They do not provide an "http" accessible stream.


As for Nest; we are avoiding offering any false hope. Many camera APIs, the types of streams they provide (if any) and our current architecture just don't blend. I'm rather frustrated the the camera vendors don't offer HTML5-browser embedded streams - it would make so much sense. Though perhaps the responsibility is also on the browser side; well ... all the browsers manage to play YouTube (and dozens of other video providers like Vimeo, etc.) perfectly well. 😞

It looks like the Nest API does offer an image capture URL though. Even updating every 5-10 seconds would be great.

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OK... After many days of screwing around with this I was able to get my Outdoor Nest Cam integrated into Actiontiles (NOT AS A VIDEO STREAM) But as an public image url that I am updating every 2 seconds. Since this is my outdoor camera public sharing is not a problem but obviously is not ideal for the rest of my cameras or if I wanted to pretend like I have any privacy. 


Here is a screenshot of my integration into my main panel:




Here are the steps taken to get this functioning (using google chrome browser):


1. Login to home.nest.com - select camera - go to settings - sharing - and enable public sharing (NOT SECURE AT ALL)

2. Get Camera URL and navigate directly to that page in another tab (ie. https://video.nest.com/live/*********l0F)

3. Right click anywhere on the public camera page and choose "View Page Source"

4. Locate entry that says <meta name="twitter:image" content="https://nexusapi.dropcam.com/get_image?uuid=6d37e87929db420fa***********fe970cf&width=560"> and copy the text

5. Go to ActionTiles - My Media - Add - and choose still image - paste url from above

6. Set Refresh Rate every 2 Seconds




HOLY CRAP - you can see your Outdoor Nest Camera in ActionTiles

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Much appreciated! Haven't looked in the forum for quite a while waiting for some sort of resolution to view all my Nest Cams in AT. The only difference from your instructions was that on my version of Chrome on my laptop (couldn't do it on phone), the view source didn't display the url image address that you had shown. I was able to successfully pull it from the source in IE though.


All Cams now accounted for.




I've been using this "https://nexusapi.dropcam.com/get_image?uuid=[CameraID]" technique for a while to grab snapshots from cameras. Lately, some (not all!) of my cameras have started to return "Forbidden" rather than a snapshot. 


I checked the firmware versions and settings and I don't see any difference between those that work and those that don't. 


Anyone else seeing this? Any suggestions? 

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I have personally never run into this "Forbidden" message.


To troubleshoot this, I would use those absolute URLs and paste them into a separate browser window and see if you can reproduce the error. If you are able to reproduce it , that would rule every single thing out from ActionTiles and SmartThings (NST Manager) if you have the latter installed.


Also see if you can reproduce the error with the actual public shared URL from the camera itself (not the embedded url reference we are using as an image).

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This is great, thanks. Solved one of my outstanding issues with my setup :)

Wow ! Great ! Works perfectly !!! Anyone tried adding a camera with RTSP support ?

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The integration of publicly shared Nest cameras is currently being tested in Beta.


Stay tuned for release announcements.

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Thank you!!!! Very excited to see how this works. So far I got it working this way: Locate entry that says <meta name="twitter:imagecontent="https://nexusapi.dropcam.com/get_image?uuid=6d37e87929db420fa***********fe970cf&width=560"  (From LedFordHouse post above)

I will be Purchasing ActionTiles today and cannot wait to see what the Future holds with this App.


Thanks Again,

Matt

I would purchase this product if it had Nest Camera Live Feed support. I am in the process of setting up all smart devices on my home. Once I got everything setup my next step is to setup a control panel. I would very much like to use this. 

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Answer

The integration with Nest Cam was just deployed. Please give it a try.


Alex

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The "nexusapi...." link was a backdoor approach that a lot of us with Nest cameras have been using for the last year. 


ActionTiles just released (Alex's post above) a 3rd option when creating Media. All you have to do is paste in your Public ID from your Nest camera. Super simple. Enjoy.


I'm trying the new Nest API - but it's not working for me on either Fully on Fire or Chrome on Windows. One item of note, my camera have six digit codes, not 10. Example: https://video.nest.com/live/RylmzZ  Ideas?

Oddly...  Now working in the preview in the Builder...  But not on the actual panel.

When you tap the Nest Cam Tile and the camera view pops up, is the camera feed working?


There's a Tile preference to enable autoplay within the tile, please give it a try. We could try to make it more intuitive, perhaps.

I don't see that option either under the Media or Tile preferences. Nor does my tile look like the example in the knowledge base? Am I looking in the wrong place? 




On Tile Preferences, scroll down to set the autoplay option.

Negative. No scroll available.

Also, it doesn't look like the Media type was saved. Make sure to tap the Update button.


If you have any farther trouble, please contact support directly.


Ah. I figured it out. If I create a new Media "instance" from scratch, all is good. If I take the instance I had formerly used for snapshots (using the backdoor option) and change its type to the new Nest entry, I get the behavior I described. Repeatably. Low priority bug for you. But maybe a note that folks should create new instances. 


Thanks for this new feature. It's awesome!

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Ok, thanks for the bug report. I will take a note of this.

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We didn't realize that there could be shorter IDs. We will update that.

Doesn't work on Fully on a Kindle Fire or in Chrome on a Windows computer. Firefox DOES work fine on Windows

Doesn't work on Fully on a Kindle Fire


On Fire HD8, with Fully, I'm totally able to get this Nest Cam ID to stream as a live streaming Tile on a Panel:


wSbs3mRsOF


...Terry.

perhaps I'm missing a setting in fully? Kindle HD8.. Fully Pro...

left is the old way of doing this with a GIF. Right is the new media type with auto play turned on




Absolutely works on Chrome on Windows. Make sure you set AutoPlay in the tile settings.


On Fully on Fire - Six streams causes browser death.  I haven't tried fewer yet.

not to argue... but here's the same panel with autoplay turned on... in windows on chrome


in windows on Firefox


Guys, there are different variations in which things work a double don't.


Chrome doesn't work in all scenarios as for the Autoplay functionality, whether you select it in the Tile Settings or not.


Android 7.1.1 had the following results:


Chrome - No Autoplay

Dolphin - No Autoplay

Firefox - Autoplay works perfect


Tablet with Android 6.0.1


Chrome - No Autoplay

Fully Kiosk - Autoplay works perfect


So I'm guessing different variations of Windows OS may have different results as well.


Worst case where Autoplay doesn't work, resort to Firefox on those devices for AT, until Chrome can be fully vetted out.

Nice work! Thanks for the update. Though, I do want to warn folks that you shouldn't enable public sharing lightly. Read about what it means here: https://nest.com/support/article/How-do-I-make-my-Nest-Cam-video-public-or-private


I'd like to keep this feature request open to provide OAuth-based authentication for the Nest API to get the camera feed.

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Thanks for the feedback!


Absolutely, public streaming comes with a bunch of caveats, disclaimers and privacy considerations. It's best when used for outdoor cameras.


I don't believe it's possible for Nest to expose camera feed for a non-public video stream.

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Yeah, I don't think there's an html5 feed, but it looks like you can get snapshots at least: https://developers.nest.com/documentation/cloud/api-camera#snapshot_url


Even just a picture that updates every 30 seconds or every 10 seconds or so would be awesome.

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So i have successfully set up the Nest Cam tiles and am able to view live video. Unfortunately I have also discovered that this uses a huge amount of bandwidth. This is not an ActionTiles issue, but a Nest not offering local streaming issue. Many may not realize it, but most providers do actually have a monthly data limit (Comcast included). Each camera, at default settings, uploads approximately 120 GB monthly and it appears that the public viewing utilizes about twice this volume of download bandwidth.


I have had great success with Ledfordhouse

's still image capture method on a 5 second update cycle. This utilizes minimal bandwidth compared to the constant streaming. 


Hopefully as a development option in the future we could see a hybrid which utilizes a frequently updating still image for tile display, but upon tile click brings up the live video stream in the full-screen view instead of the image. I think that would be an ideal solution for the Nest situation (unless Nest decides to open up local streaming).

+1 for this. I'd love to see the snapshot URL integration I linked above:

https://developers.nest.com/documentation/cloud/api-camera#snapshot_url


For bonus points, my ideal UI woudl use snapshots by default and then when you click/tap on a camera feed, it'd start playing the live feed.

You can resort to using the backdoor functionality that we have all been using prior to the officially released Nest media from Action Tiles. The backdoor uses the embedded url (which is a gif) from the Live URL and that does give you the ability to Update how often it refreshes. Of course, AT isn't going to support this method, and who knows how much longer Nest will allow this backdoor to be used for.

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I’ve successfully integrated nest using the new method and overall it’s great. It is slightly annoying though that I keep getting a pop up within the tile window which basically covers the image of the camera. Anyone else had this and got suggestions of how to fix?


Have attached a picture of what I mean. 

Did you ever fix this issue? I'm trying to set up on iPad and get the same popup.

Same here. Pop up ad kills the usability of the tile view.

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I’ve been playing a lot with the AT Nest Camera integration. My six cameras are all “Drop Cam Pros” of various vintage bought used on eBay. I’m using licensed copies of Fully, DAKBoard, etc. I thought the following feedback would perhaps be useful:


On Windows under multiple browsers (I’ve tried Chrome 64, Firefox 58, and IE 11): Everything works as expected. My tiles have live video. Clicking fills the screen with live video. If I click on the image again, I get the annoying “Meet the camera” dialogue but if I use the upper right corner “X”, I do not. Love it.


On iOS on my iPhone 7 under Safari: Everything mostly works as expected. My tiles have still video with a play button lower left. Clicking fills the screen and one more click starts live video. Clicking anywhere again, I get the annoying “Meet the camera” dialogue before an “X” in the upper right appears for closing. Love it – if I could avoid meeting the camera.


On Fire 7 under Fully: Kind of works. My tiles are either blank background (if I have the Autoplay setting on) or bullseyes (if Autoplay is off). Either way, clicking fills the screen with live video. Clicking the upper-right “X” goes back to panel with no dialogue. There’s a horsepower issue here – if I reduce the panel to only one live camera, I see live video on in the tile.  More than that and something gets overwhelmed and the tiles revert to the background color

I am having the same issue. Windows laptop works perfectly (except for the annoying popup), but on the Fire using Fully, I get the blank background until I press then the video plays. Have you came across a solution to get the live tile up right away on the fire using fully?

The old way and the new way no longer work for me, they both broke yesterday.I just get a blank tile now for some reason.
It thought it might be a Fully issue, but its the same when viewing from a PC.

Anyone else have this issue? When i am in my Media and i add in the code it shows the feed, but not on the web interface on my tablet or PC.The same issue as well when i use the old "dropbox" link and make it a GIF and do a refresh every few seconds.


Also, where is this Autoplay button? I dont see that at all.

The Autoplay option might not show up if you are reusing an old Media definition. Create a new NestCam Media and then create a Tile from it. Under Tile settings, scroll to the bottom and you'll see the Autoplay Toggle.

Did that, no go.

Anything i do does not make a difference now, it only stopped working yesterday.

The feed shows up when i create the tile, but on the panel itself, it is still showing broken, and even creating the new media tile i still dont see any option to select Autoplay.

Autoplay is under Tile Settings of the Tile in Panel Builder, after you add the Media Tile to a Panel.


Please reference the Knowledge Base page for a depiction:  https://support.actiontiles.com/knowledge-bases/8/articles/3099-nest-camtm-media-tiles

Got it working, took awhile but I had to delete all of my media streams, recreated them and it showed up.
I have opted to go back to the old way to pull them in as a gif, they seem to work better that way (for now)

I am having a little problem with my new Nest CAM IQ. If I open Actiontiles on my laptop (using WIndows), then video feed opens up perfectly in a tile. But the tile on my Fire HD8 (using FullyKiosk) is a blank grey. If I tap on the blank grey tile, then the video screen pops up and shows video. Is there a way to get my Fire HD to behave like my laptop?


Update:

Just for the record, I got the live tile video working now for the Fire HD 8 (Fully Kiosk), but it is very intermittent.

I am able to get the feed on the tile on two of my Fire HD tablets (Fully Kiosk). The other one (exact same model) just shows the blank tiles. It's the weirdest thing. Any updates would be appreciated.

How secure is it if you make it public? I couldn't get live video to work so I did the still image method...but not sure how long I will keep it as privacy is important. 


I have a Mac that runs 24/7. Is it possible to set something up so I can keep my cams secured (not public) and continue to make it work with action tiles?


Is it possible to run a script to get a still image from the Nest API? And then I can simply host a local webpage that displays it and link that with action tiles?


How secure is it if you make it public?

I presume the unique URLs that are provided by Nest are not published (nor searchable through Google, Bing, etc...), but I can't be certain. If they are not published / searchable, then I would like to believe that malignant discovery is rare. Even better if Nest customers can re-generate new random URLs upon request from time to time?

I have a Mac that runs 24/7. Is it possible to set something up so I can keep my cams secured (not public) and continue to make it work with action tiles?

Unlikely with Nest. Using a "transcoder" on your LAN is a powerful technique for all camera types that offer a local (i.e., non-cloud) feed, even in RTSP and other ONVIF formats. Blue Iris is popular for PC, but I think there are Mac equivalents.

Fire 7 & Fully Kiosk: Nest cam tile is a grey box, unless I tap to make it full screen, the player loads and I see the Nest stream. However, if I open the actiontiles menu from within Fully and press the eye icon to view my panel, the small Nest cam box now shows up. But the whole Fully app crashes shortly after; also viewing the large Nest cam window causes a crash. 

for the last day or so, my nest cam has also been a grey box, on both Chromium on my raspberry pi, and chrome when I check it from my android phone


It does work fine from chrome on my PC though

Morning,

I'm experiencing a similar issue to both the previous posts.  On all browsers (Chrome desktop, Fully Kiosk on Fire, Fully Kiosk on Android) I have a still image of the camera when it loads or a grey box.

Once i open the camera to full screen it is fine. 

Same here as Nest only shows still with play button in middle of image on Chrome or Fully Kiosk on Fire. Tried resetting URL toggling the stream setting no change. Complete Fail for my use case. 

Please test with a brand new Media definition on a brand new Panel. I recall an anomaly regarding switching Auto Play on/off, but I am not sure if you are encountering it.

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Terry,


Thanks for the suggestion.  I have attempted a new Panel, resetting the unique Nest ID and creating new Media tiles.  None of this has been successful.



The display of Nest Cams via ActionTiles is my primary use case and extremely frustrating.  I would suggest this is flagged as a priority.


Has this anything to do with changes to background code following the introduction of bespoke Themes?


I look forward to your prompt resolution.


Many thanks.

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Hi David,


No; I'm pretty certain that the v6.8.0 did not introduce new issues with Nest Cam.


While I understand your frustration, the Nest Cam feature is and always was clearly tagged as "experimental". Google Nest does not provide us with an API for embedded streams. The provided feature is a courtesy hack. I would not recommend expecting a "prompt resolution", sorry.


     
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Terry,


Many thanks for your reply.  Further investigation would suggest this is potentially not a Actiontiles issue but infact a Nest issue.  When you launch the https://video.nest.com/live/XXXXXXXX feed in a standard non embedded window it no-longer Autoplays.  I am currently contacting Nest support.


Many thanks.

I see the gray boxes SOMETIMES. Other times, things work as designed. I attribute the issue to bandwidth. If the WiFi is shaky or I'm counting on a cell signal, might not see video until I click on a camera. If the network is solid, works like a charm. Just my $0.02. 

Is the small Nest tile supposed to play a live image?


The small Nest tile works fine within Action Tiles when displayed in Firefox browser, but it is only a still image of the cam; I have to click into the larger full view to see the live video.  However, on my Fire 7 it doesn't work...the small sized Nest cam tile does not show an image (remains gray) when Fully Kiosk Browser first loads up my Action Tiles start URL, BUT from that screen, if I go into the Action Tiles options menu (the lower right corner "..." button) and then select my custom panel directly, it will load the same start panel but this time the minimized Nest cam tile displays a still cam image. Why not when it first loads? Why do I have to manually load the same action panel for it to work? Why is it only a still image?


I'm just posting my updates as I attempt to troubleshoot. My main goal is to have my Live Nest cam display as a small tile. ...the old method, refresh the image every x seconds worked fine; but that isn't an option anymore right?

I'm trying to figure out this same issue. Having the gray image is pretty ugly.

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My cameras all just broke today, no more images are coming through.
I have added them, removed them, etc etc but to no avail.


I am using the old method since the current experimental option doesnt show a live feed.


Anyone else seeing this?

Same thing happened to me, about 4 hours ago. When I "view source" within my public nest cam feed and follow the link within the code 


<(twitter:image" content="https://nexusapi-us1.dropcam.com/get_image?uuid=XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&width=560"> I now receive a "FORBIDDEN" message instead of a still frame. 


This wasn't the case as of a few hours ago. Not sure if nest made changes on their end which affected our ability to pull still images from our cameras... It had been working flawlessly for me for the past year or so (pulling images every 2 seconds).


One interesting note: If I view use an alternate link: https://nexusapi-us1.camera.home.nest.com/get_image?uuid=XXXXXXXXXX&width=560 the still image is available and accessible from my macbook (using chrome) but I cannot access the still shots from my ipad/kindle/mobile.

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Running into the same issue, with the old method as well.  I tried your alternate link and, like you, works on my MacBook (Chrome & Safari) but will not work on the iPad. Also receiving the 'FORBIDDEN' when accessing the link directly.

Morning all,   So I have my nest hello working however I get different results depending on the browser.  And no I don't live on a motorway... :)   The GIF method works everywhere no issues.


Chrome works perfectly. The two images side by side at the bottom are the two different implementations.

IE not so good..   is this flash, html5?

on my Fire HD.   I get nothing in the stream similar to the iphone below unless I select it full screen and then it works...

on my iPhone. I get nothing. When I select into the tile, I see LIVE but no stream.