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Dimmer slider, color picker always visible via a special new Tile type?

Nic 2 years ago in Panels (dashboards) / Special Tiles • updated by Terry (ActionTiles) (Co-Founder) 2 weeks ago 19 4 duplicates

I apologize if this has been discussed already, I couldn't find an answer. Is it possible to have a dim slider or color picker shown next to the switch all the time instead of having to click the three dots? I think it would be really helpful to be able to simply slide the dimmer without going through a menu.


Thanks for everything!

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Interesting observation and request, Mikael...


We think that changing the Dim Level and/or Color of a Switch is a relatively rarely used function, and thus making it the default operation isn't particularly valuable. I recommend that you look into the new Scenes feature in the SmartThings App. Scenes can be added to ActionTiles via Routines. Can SmartThings Scenes be added as Tiles?


If you and other Customers are finding the Tile overflow (...) Button to be too small or difficult to tap (what size Tiles and tablet are you using?), then we may be able to tweak the touch area to be slightly larger than Material Design specifications recommend.


As for the dimmer slider and color picker; please feel welcome to elaborate with real-world examples of what you consider more usable.


Thank-you,

...Terry.

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The request to add on-tile dimmer control has popped up on several occasions, but we didn't consider it as a priority since there was not much interest.


Please add your votes to this topic to help us to prioritize this feature request. I just added my vote.


Also, we may look into utilizing long tap to open the overflow menu. This could help the users that are having trouble tapping the 3-dot icon.

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We're likely going to collect a lot of ideas for improving "Dimmers"; though this might be a good self-contained idea.

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Hi Nic...


You're not the first one to make this Feature Request, but it is a difficult one for us to even consider, because: There simply isn't room on a Tile for extra controls like dimmer & color picker.

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Is it possible to have a separate tile that is a dimmer or one that is a color picker?

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Thanks so much for the quick response! I'm really excited about this project!

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Appreciate your feedback and idea, Yan...


Unfortunately, this is a case of too big of a technical hurdle for your described desired behavior:


  1. "Long Press" is not a gesture option in browsers. Long Press is hard coded to link to the context menu of copy / open-in-new tab, etc., etc..
  2. With the current Slider, we do not "immediately dismiss it" because it is not sufficiently accurate on many browsers and there is a difference between selecting a Dim Level by number and it's visual appearance. In other words, in my experience, in many cases I try various different levels before landing on the one that is "just right". That's why we leave the Level Slider open for a few seconds. (It will disappear on it's own, however, after a short while.)

We can leave this Idea Topic open for discussions on what might be creative, yet practical, ways to improve the Dim Level Setting user interface. There are some very lofty ideas in my head, but I'd rather focus on finding out what our customer community thinks is best.

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I think the ideal solution would be on tiles larger than 1x1 the slider should be part of the tile. Press on the slider for the appropriate dimming level, press near the bottom to turn it off and, press near the top to turn it on 100%. It would be easiest on a 3x1 or 1X3 tile but it think on a 2 height or width tile it would still work.

This is my biggest annoyance at the moment.  Dimmer would be great. even if it starts as a 2 wide tile

Dimmers could be like this:


https://sensorsandsensibility.com/posts/2015/6/14/a-simple-command-and-control-dashboard


A percentage and - / + underneath.  That would fit on a smaller tile even.  Larger tile maybe a slider.  Color likely gets pretty tough...

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Interesting observation and request, Mikael...


We think that changing the Dim Level and/or Color of a Switch is a relatively rarely used function, and thus making it the default operation isn't particularly valuable. I recommend that you look into the new Scenes feature in the SmartThings App. Scenes can be added to ActionTiles via Routines. Can SmartThings Scenes be added as Tiles?


If you and other Customers are finding the Tile overflow (...) Button to be too small or difficult to tap (what size Tiles and tablet are you using?), then we may be able to tweak the touch area to be slightly larger than Material Design specifications recommend.


As for the dimmer slider and color picker; please feel welcome to elaborate with real-world examples of what you consider more usable.


Thank-you,

...Terry.

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I have an 8" tablet and the (...) button is too small. I'd far prefer a better visual indicator personally, like a page corner turned up, and I was excited about AT until I realized that dimming wasn't possible inside a tile... I don't see the need to open an extra screen when 1x2 or 1x3 slider tiles are so much more user friendly. Have the top or right 1/4 tile be turn on (depending on vertical or horizontal orientation), the bottom or left 1/4 tile be turn off, and the remaining be split into 20% dimming levels for a 1x2 tile, and 10% dimming levels in a 1x3.  


This is an example of what I'd be looking for:


With the approximate click boxes as below:



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The request to add on-tile dimmer control has popped up on several occasions, but we didn't consider it as a priority since there was not much interest.


Please add your votes to this topic to help us to prioritize this feature request. I just added my vote.


Also, we may look into utilizing long tap to open the overflow menu. This could help the users that are having trouble tapping the 3-dot icon.

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Can you merge this thread with the more recent one about the same topic? You stated that "there wasn't much interest" in having a dimmer slider directly on a tile on the other post but this post has 36 votes and was shelved. 


Newer post at http://support.actiontiles.com/forums/12-actiontiles-forum/topics/2808-dimmer-color-switch-should-have-option-to-always-show-control-drawer-andor-in-tile-dimmer-slider/

Merge done. Thanks for pointing out the duplicate, Edward.

Another vote for improving the "dimmer control/tile".


Currently it's too picky about where one touches (the three dots) to get the dimmer controls, and get that wrong and you turn the light on/off -- very frustrating. And embarrassing when you have a gathering and the lights go off. It will be nice to either have:


  1. A new kind of tile for "dimmer" switch/lights, that when touched (anywhere) opens up a slider (yes you loose one touch on/off capability) and then a second touch would either change the intensity or turn on/off the switch.
  2. Improve the current tile to optionally configure above behavior as part of tile-settings.

Presently working with dimmers and these tiles require fine motor skills that most people would find hard to master.


Thanks.

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Thanks for the feedback, example, and Feature Request, Jake...


This request is similar to one we have received a while back, and we do get similar feedback from time to time. These Topics are certainly worth our consideration and worth Customers allocating the Topic Votes.


...Terry.

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I would like to see the hit area of the "..." a little bigger (or the option to size it), but more importantly is improving popup that pops up from the bottom. I'm using old phones as wall panels and I use pretty big tiles, so that they are easy to read and press, but the popup at the bottom is always the same size, which is pretty small compared to my tiles and I find it hard to use on a small screen. It would be great to be able to configure the size of the popup and it's controls. I'd prefer mine to take up at least half the screen

Thanks for the feedback, Scott!

Great timing because we actually are in the process of some development specifically around improving the "pop-up drawer". We're testing "long press on Tile" as an alternative way to trigger up the drawer, as well as some other ideas - many inspired by this feedback Forum.

Look for some of these to be deployed within the next few weeks (perhaps some sooner than others).

Cheers,

...Terry.